Georgia and Georgia Tech’s beef spans football, war, and apples

Georgia and Georgia Tech’s beef spans football, war, and apples

– What do World War I, apples, and a computer
hacker have in common? They’re all key parts of
the very, very old beef between Georgia and Georgia Tech. The Georgia-Georgia Tech football game, better known as Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate, has been played well over 100 times. Naturally, it’s had lots
of great and memorable football moments, from
Buck Belue leading Georgia to a 20 point comeback win in 1978, to Harrison Butker hitting
a 53 yard field goal to send the game to overtime where Georgia Tech won in 2014. These teams have ruined
seasons for one another. Won when they weren’t supposed
to and gotten coaches fired. But this Beef History is going to focus on the things outside of the games, or at least adjacent to them, that make this rivalry historic. The first time these two teams
were set to play each other, people were happy to put
aside the stress of the world and just enjoy a football game. I mean, yeah there were
rumors that Georgia Tech was using players that
weren’t bonafide students, but this was 1893 and everyone
was feeling a little weird. The Supreme Court had
just ruled that tomatoes were legally vegetables. Of course, then Georgia
Tech won that game in Athens and well, the Georgia fans
remembered those rumors, especially when it came
to player slash coach Leonard Wood, who was
a doctor in the Army… and 33 years old. They also remembered
that one of the officials was the brother of a Georgia Tech trainer, who was also playing for the team. So some of them started this chant. Well, well, well, who can tell, the Tech’s umpire has cheated like blank. You weren’t allowed to
say hell in the newspaper in 1893, I guess. Anyways, the chant was the
comparatively nice part. Some Georgia fans started
poking at the Tech players with their canes. Others threw rocks at their
new friends from Atlanta. One Bulldog player
supposedly pulled a knife. With the benefit of hindsight, we know that those Georgia
fans totally overreacted. According to official school records, Wood had indeed enrolled at Georgia Tech- on November 2nd, two
days before this game. Oh, and he left the
school that same month. Again, this was all in
the first game Georgia and Georgia Tech had
played against one another. It was the 6th football game
they’d ever played combined. Georgia then went 5-0-1 in the next six games in the series. If you think this calmed their hatred, let me tell you about the
Georgia-Clemson game in 1903. I promise, it’s relevant. That game in Athens was the
season opener for both teams, and Clemson won the game easily, 29-0. Georgia’s captain was not
a sore loser, however. In fact, he wanted to see
Clemson do even better against their next opponent, so he made them an offer. For every point they scored over 29, Georgia would buy Clemson
a bushel of apples. Apparently eating apples
was the thing you did for fun at Clemson in 1903. If you guessed that
Clemson’s next opponent was Georgia Tech, good job. And a motivated Clemson
really took it to Tech, winning 73-0 and
earning 44 bushels of apples in the process. There was however, an unexpected downside to this arrangement. Georgia Tech was so impressed
by the whooping they received, that they decided to hire
Clemson’s coach, John Heisman. At the time, Tech hadn’t
done much as a program, with 10 wins, five ties and 32 losses
in program history. Heisman changed that,
making the Jackets much more competitive year to year and winning the National Championship in 1917, with a team many considered to be one of the greatest of all time. Oh yeah, that’s also how
this rivalry got some serious parade beef. It’s 1919, just before a baseball game between the two schools. In the spirit of post-war happiness, Georgia students put together
a couple of parade floats. The first was a tank with
“Argonne” written on the side. The second was a car,
in Georgia Tech colors and driven by someone
in Georgia Tech gear, and that car had a message on it too. “Georgia in France, Tech in Atlanta.” This made Tech mad, really mad. And for those of you who aren’t
huge World War I buffs, I’ll explain why. Georgia didn’t field a
football team in 1917 or 1918, due to student
participation in the war effort. According to this note from the class of 1919, all but one of them had served in either the Army or the Navy, and many of them were part
of the Meuse-Argonne Offensive, in 1918, the deadliest
battle in American history. Georgia Tech, on the other hand, actually saw enrollment grow to record levels during the war. That was in part due to
the federal government relying on Tech as a
military training ground, including a training program for pilots and in 1918, an ROTC
program that was mandatory for freshman and sophomores. That also meant there were
plenty of students on campus available to play football. So Tech continued its
team during the war, including that 1917 championship squad. You can see why Georgia Tech
might find a parade float that more or less called
them cowards insulting. So insulting that they decided nope, they were done playing Georgia in sports. And for five years, they didn’t. It was another four years
after that before they were willing to play Georgia in football again. But a form of revenge was waiting. The 1927 Georgia Bulldogs, known as the Dream and Wonder team, tore through the first nine
games on their schedule. Georgia Tech was coming
off a bad 1926 season, where they went four and five. And though they were
improved, most didn’t think they were on Georgia’s level. Still, 40,000 fans packed
a very rainy Grant Field in Atlanta, to watch what they thought would be a game for the history books. And that is what they got, as
Tech upset Georgia 12-0. But beyond the final score, there were two pieces of trickery by Georgia Tech Coach Bill Alexander, that were just perfect beef
additions to this rivalry. First, remember all that rain and mud? In the first half, Alexander
decided to mostly avoid it. Whenever Georgia Tech
got the ball on offense, he punted – on first down. This was not merely to avoid turnovers and protect field
position, it was a setup. Late in the second quarter, Warner Mizell took the snap on first down. Georgia players expected
him to punt the ball, but this time, he threw it, to quarterback Bob Durant, for the first touchdown of the game. Tech scored again in the second half, though they wouldn’t
need it since the defense never got scored on. And that brings us to act of
subterfuge number two, which was a longer play by Alexander. Three weeks before this, against LSU, Georgia Tech’s second
string started the game. They did the same thing against
their next two opponents because this was all part of
The Plan, a tactic by Alexander to rest his starters as much as he could
before the Georgia game and give them plenty of time to prepare for the Dawgs, and the Dawgs in particular. This man devoted an entire
month to ruining a rival season. We need that kind of
dedicated spite from coaches more today, if you ask me. And the shenanigans kept going from there. There was the near riot the cops could barely control in 1930. There were the two Georgia Tech
victories in 1943 and 1944, that Georgia doesn’t count
in the official series record because they thought Tech
had an unfair advantage, thanks to World War II. There was the coal strike,
rumoredly encouraged by Georgia fans to keep
Georgia Tech from taking the train to Athens for the game in 1946. Tech wound up chartering a plane
to get around that problem. There was the time in the 50’s, where some Georgia Tech
students reportedly tried to chop down the chapel
bell tower in Athens in the middle of the night. But then the Yellow
Jackets made a big, bold, future changing decision. At an SEC meeting in 1964, Georgia Tech announced they were leaving the conference they’d co-founded and going independent. They said they had no choice
because they didn’t like recruiting and scholarship
practices within the conference. Though there were some financial
advantages to leaving too. The Dawgs weren’t exactly
thrilled about this. Their AD said, “something will be gone “from the Georgia-Georgia Tech series now, “in a strictly football sense.” And he was kind of right. At the time Tech left the SEC, their record against
Georgie was just about even. From their departure through 2017, they went 14 and 40 versus the Dogs. In 19 years as an independent program, the Jackets went to six bowl games. That’s half as many as they’d gone to in their last 19 seasons with the SEC. Tech tried to un-ring this bell in 1977 when they petitioned to
return to the conference. But the remaining members voted unanimously against expansion. The Yellow Jackets wound
up going to the ACC instead and they did take home a
National Championship in 1990. But you don’t need to share
a conference to share beef. Georgia-Georgia Tech can
still inspire the visiting team to put the home team’s landscaping in their mouths when they win. Georgia’s still the school
that appears in both of Tech’s fight songs, and
not all that respectfully. Georgia’s still the team that went for a totally unnecessary
touchdown on fourth and goal late in the 1993 game, and got it, prompting a long, messy brawl. This is still the game that
inspired one Tech student to hack into the University
of Georgia’s master calendar, and put “Get Ass Kicked by
GT” for the day of this game. Granted, he wound up
sitting in an Athens jail on Christmas Eve, facing
felony charges for that, though eventually they
wound up getting dropped. Rivalry beef should be serious, but not you know, prison serious.

100 thoughts on “Georgia and Georgia Tech’s beef spans football, war, and apples

  1. Georgia went 40-14 against Tech because Tech left the SEC, yes, but lest we forget integration was the rage in the post-Civil Rights 70s and UGA could get better recruits as an affiliated school than the bookish Tech could/can. Why did Tech run the option for a decade? There's why

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    Am I the only one that hates all the betting and live stream spamming here? It kinda ruins the CONVERSATION wading through all this cr*p! Hoping for a great game! Go Utes and Go Huskies!

  3. Do the Beef of Ohio State & Michigan now that would be a great Wonder post especially after what happened when Ohio State clearly obliterated Michigan

  4. As a newer generation Georgia fan, this isn’t really a rivalry. One team is a conference championship contender almost every year, with a playoff appearance and frequent New Years six appearances. The other team runs the triple option.

  5. Another interesting bit: the uGA fans started throwing rocks and mud at the Tech players during their first game, so much so that they had to end early and run back to their train to take them back to Atlanta. Their passenger train wasn’t ready, so they boarded a box car. The train actually crashed (!!) and the players eventually made it back to Atlanta. A newspaper said, ‘The Wrecks Rambled Back to Tech, and thus the name Rambling Wreck from Georgia Tech was born. This is a part of our fight song, and also the name of the student body mascot, the Ramblin’ Reck, a 1930 Ford Model A sport coupe!

  6. I love the Georgia bulldogs because I'm a fan of the Georgia bulldogs football team and I hate Georgia tech!!! To hell with Georgia tech!!! I 🖤 UGA!!! I 🖤 Georgia!!! Go Dawgs!!! Sic em!!!

  7. I am curious for the St. Thomas vs. St. John’s rivalry from Minnesota. Even though it is Division III I feel that it is a storied beef history that should be highlighted.

  8. Sooner bred sooner born when you play the Oklahoma state cowboys o u will most often find out that you lose the game sooner rather than later

  9. When UGA gets three more National Championships to match Techs FOUR (1917, 1928, 1952, 1990) then come talk to me!

    And before any UGA fan pops off with, "Well getting one in 1917 doesn't count!"……my question would be would anyone dismiss Alabama getting one in the same year? I think not!

    Oh by the way, Tech STILL owns the longest win streak between them and UGA at 8 games!


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