Extended: Gerrard and Klopp talk management at Liverpool FC

Extended: Gerrard and Klopp talk management at Liverpool FC

Do you remember the moment when you felt
you wanted to be a manager, Jurgen, and how young were you? – 20.
– 20? It was! I was never happy
with my football, to be honest. For me, I knew I wanted to study sports,
so I played third division football, trained with the youth team at Frankfurt,
and enjoyed it, so I knew that’s what I wanted to do,
and I was always waiting for the moment when somebody would come to me and say, “We all saw you cannot play football,
but maybe you want to train the team.” For me, it was about trying it. We had
numerous conversations, in this office, and I asked Jurgen a lot of questions,
what it was like, and he spoke about his experiences, and I think for me it was
all about the next two years, to go and sample it, see what it’s like,
but he gave me the pros and the cons, and gave me invaluable advice
moving forward. I’m enjoying the role, and I’m making loads of
mistakes, but they’re off-camera, which is what he suggested was the best
move to do, and now that I’ve experienced that I think it was certainly the right move from
the beginning. I’m just trying to grow and learn and get used to a completely
different role and completely different job than being a player. And that’s been
the most eye-opening thing for me, how different it is from being a player. Now I’ve got more respect for managers,
more respect for coaches… Finally(!) I used to think I was the best coach and best
manager in the world when I was a player. “What are you doing that session for?
Why’d you do this, why’s he doing that?” Now, I apologise for all that, and I realise
how much of a difficult job it is for any coach and any manager,
because it’s a completely different ball game. It’s all about trial and error, trial and error.
Because nobody knows how it works, if you ask Pep Guardiola, today he looks like
he knows absolutely everything, even he didn’t start perfectly, I think he started at Barcelona B,
was not perfect from the first day, so he obviously thought, “Maybe it’s not the
right job for me”, so you all have to do that. And that’s why it’s so difficult to start
on the public level where I am now, because people are talking
constantly about you, and you need to get
resistant to things like that, you cannot always be in doubt about,
“What am I doing?” You cannot do what the people want,
you need to do what you think is right, and if you have a strong team
around you it helps massively, because you have questions. Can you
imagine, as a Premier League manager, I go out there, “By the way, one question –
what would you do in this situation?” It’s not possible, everyone would think,
“No, you need to know.” But we are human beings,
and so we still have questions. “How can I deal with
this player or this problem?” And it’s good to have
a strong team around, but I have. Not in the beginning, I started alone,
but then thankfully I got it. So that’s the only help you can get, and to
learn all these things is a wonderful thing. Losing feels the same way on each level, but not having the pressure from outside
helps to make the right decision again in the next game. And so
I’m really happy that you enjoy it, because it doesn’t happen too often,
that a player of your size starts on this level. That’s why I always say it’s a job you have
to learn, and if you’re ready to learn it then you don’t have to be a genius
to come through, you need to be busy, you need to be interested,
and then it’s possible. And THEN it’s a big help that
you’ve been a world-class player. Because then you know all about the game,
your own ideas, but if that’s the only thing,
you were a world-class player but not ready to learn the next step,
then it doesn’t help. A few of them struggled obviously,
in Germany… That’s what I’ve learned in the six months,
you don’t realise what comes with it. There’s so much information
to learn and take in… Have you found anything in particular
a struggle, Steven, that learning process? I think everything that’s new,
it’s not a struggle but it’s different, you sort of go out your comfort zone. So for the first time you have
25 players around you, then you have to take what’s on
the paper and deliver it on the field, then you get your first player knocking
at the door – “Why aren’t I playing?” Everything’s new. Some things are a struggle, because you’re not used to it
or you’ve got no experience, like the boss is saying, but with time
and experiences in certain situations, if you’re faced with the same thing again
you think, “What did I do right,
what did I do wrong?” It’s experiences that help you
with decisions moving forward, but I’m not gonna lie, at the beginning
you’re like a rabbit in the headlights. “Whoa, what am I gonna do?” When you’re a player you just turn up
and you think, “I know I can go and perform “on the training pitch, or at Anfield,
or Goodison or whatever”, but when you’re a manager there’s
so much more that you have to think about. Are you all right with the prospect of maybe
picking up a phone and speaking to Jurgen if there’s something
you’re not quite sure about? Well, I have, that’s already happened, there’s been numerous times
I’ve picked the phone up on a text, or I’ve been here and asked a question. I think he’s already said in the media
that the door’s open and anything he can help me with,
and for me that’s gold dust. He’s obviously got a lot more, what,
20 years more experience than me, in what I’m trying to do, so any little
bits and bobs I can get from Jurgen and his staff, or anything that I see him doing, I obviously need to take it in
and add it to what… But it’s much better to learn it by yourself. Because that’s how it is. For example,
one big difference for me was the analysis. At the beginning I did it completely alone,
because we had nobody to do it, and watching the game from the pitch, two days before I became a manager
I played my last game. I was right full-back, so I had this view on the
pitch and I saw all of them from the back, and then you have the first game
as a manager, and you sit there and see them
all running like this, and you’re on the same level
and you think, “Wow.” That’s really a bad view. And then after
the game, first press conference – “What do you think about this situation
and that situation?” I really struggled with the answers,
but I gave some answers and what I learned first,
they obviously don’t listen, because otherwise they would
have recognised I have no clue what I’m talking about! I was running home actually, sitting in front of
the television watching the game back, and again and again. I watched my first game
as a manager four times the night after. I wanted to be prepared for
the next morning and the session where I actually have to tell the players not
my opinion, but the truth about the game. Because opinion is what you have
after the game as a player, you think, “Why did you play that ball,
why did you pass that ball?” Players are constantly talking about
offensive situations until they concede a goal. They don’t talk about defensive situations
until the ball is in. With me, I was a player two days before,
so I was their friend – I’m still their friend. They came to me and asked me questions,
and I needed to have answers. In the beginning I always sent them out
and said, “Give me five minutes! “I need to think about it,
I don’t have an answer!” But we could do it, because I was not in public
as well, it was the Championship in Germany, so that’s good, learning by yourself, because you cannot do the way
somebody else is doing. You can pick up things, you can say this part
of football, Jurgen Klopp football, I like, this part of football is there,
how United get results, very good, stuff like that, now being more serious
in a game, now fluent – that’s all OK, but you will see it, and then you have to think
about how can you achieve it. How can I get it for my boys?
Not going out and asking, “What do you do in training
so it looks like that?” Because that is different,
we all have our different ways. It’s a fantastic time you’re having at
the moment, hopefully you feel like that. No, it is. When you can really do
what I very often miss – just train. Because the job now
is so many things around that sometimes there’s
no time for training. – You think, “Wow, how did that happen?”
– Yeah, too many games. The other thing as well, it’s about personnel. I might say to my kids,
“We have to play the Jurgen Klopp way”, but I haven’t got Jurgen Klopp’s players. I’ve got different players with different styles,
so you have to find out about the individual, hear their strengths and their weaknesses,
and then play a way that suits them people. I don’t think it’s fair to ask some of my kids
to run like Mane or do what Firmino does, because they’re already ready
to be top players. But, yeah, it’s a fascinating job because
you learn so much every day about players.

100 thoughts on “Extended: Gerrard and Klopp talk management at Liverpool FC

  1. wenger should get some tips from klopp about trying things by himself. last season he copies conte 343 style and this season he's trying with his average players to play like city

  2. this is real talk..i love to see stevie as a manager but its still long way to go maybe around 44 or 45 he will achieve that

  3. In my opinion the best player ever to play for the club.. let's hope one day he becomes a great manager of the club too…

  4. stevie is the next guadiola, club captain onto club’s b team coach and then first team coach and win everything, jurgen klopp is the johan cruyff to stevie

  5. Stevie will learn a lot from Jurgen then one day in the future and hope that's a long time away because we want Jurgen to stay at LFC for years to come he will be our next manager

  6. Wouldn’t want Gerrard managing for us. Never seems to end well. Don’t want to ruin the legend he is and the legacy he has.

  7. The amount of respect I have for these two is unreal! Its great to see gerrard's attitude to learning the craft before he jumps in the deep end and rising through the ranks at LFC once again, mark my words U18 > U23 > First Team Coach > Manager > His first PL title! Cant wait to see what the future holds for this kop legend! Also love to see Klopp's effort in helping him through the process, learning from a top class manager such as him only bodes well

  8. Humility, willingness to learn, deep desire to be better – super impressed with Gerrard's behavior. Now, the question is can he deliver the goods – only time will tell, as not all great players transition to great coaches.

  9. Honestly grateful that stevie surrounded w/ great people especially klopp during his first try as a coach. He's doing beyond fine w/ the youth team but most important thing he learn a lot 👍

  10. Klopp is the right mentor for Stevie.

    Coaching the under 18s is arguably a better proposition than being the head coach of a 2nd or third division club. He has the admiration of the players, he's contributing to the team he loves, he's learning under someone of calibur, close to home, he still gets to be a pundit, and plays the occasional friendly!

    I want to hear how the academy and the senior team are going to be under the same roof.

  11. It would be a dream if Gerrard came back to manage Liverpool and he gets the final trophy he's missing, the premier league.

  12. I’m not a Liverpool fan , but there is much to admire about the club . I’m a big Klopp fan , what a breath of fresh air .

  13. My idols! Gives me goosebumps seeing our current and future manager on that couch. Really hope we achieve great things with Klopp.


  15. Jurgen is the best mentor Stevie can get at this level. The way he is able to explain perspective with the help of examples from his first day as a manager , I wish he remains Liverpool manager for at least 10 years and Stevie gets a good start in his managerial career, be it at Liverpool or somewhere else . Wish both these gentlemen Great luck in getting LFC back to the top . YNWA

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  17. Interesting, Klopp became more arrogant, that's something I would not have thought but which also is logical with all the positive (deserved) attention. I think talking so sprawlingly about football tips etc. is something, he will regret or at least chafe at. Current times, where coaches tend to publically explain their tactics and which I warmly welcome, eventually might change again.

  18. Wow Kloppos english has improved dramatically these last years….

    Btw: Hes only been coaching for like 6-8 years…..not 20 like Steves said

  19. What I love about this is Klopp really wants Gerrard to succeed and Gerrard has realised what it takes and the respect is there…Gerrard calls him Boss…and Klopp mentions gerrard as a world class player…both of them realise the benefit to Liverpool…or is that just me ?

  20. This makes me so proud to be a Liverpool supporter. The quality of their character, which we all know flows through the organization, is very humble and real and open. So fortunate and blessed to have Jurgen right now, and hope it's all rubbing off on Stevie.

  21. So much to learn in this conversation for anyone who wants to be a GM/Head coach in any sort of sport, really.

    I became a summer collegiate baseball GM years ago being mostly a stat head and at my heart – i'm still an analytic guy. That's my strength, right? But you learn so much of an appreciation for the human element of things and the best managers or whomever is making player personnel decisions… so much of the human piece is just human. And so much just comes from expectations. Players knowing and having the confidence that they're here for a reason, that they've got a shot to contribute – but being honest about where they're at, what your hopes and goals for them are and how they align with the player and their worldview of themselves… and setting realistic expectations and having a roadmap as to how to get there… i've had immensely talented guys who were just that – who needed time to figure their way, and have an understanding of themselves (you come in there) but also what it will take to get them there and then then nuts and the ability to maintain your own sense of humility in stepping out of their wayto let them achieve that and then give them the reigns to prove it on the playing field.

    It's having a wide range view of each player – your best, average and worst case scenarios – and how each other htose scenarios – how that asset can help you – and regardless of that scenario- how you can get that player to believe they'll help you.

    And that's what I love about Klopp so much – there's such a 'chess at multiple levels' and that no player – no matter how well he fits 'your' style – that they are their own puzzle and player development is sometimes as much the journey as it is the destination. This is a great video for anyone who cares about sports and aspires to have that kind of a job.

  22. I noticed how Jurgen wouldn’t talk over Stevie G ( such is his respect for the man ) and the mutual respect Stevie G showed Jurgen was a master class in humility and mutual admiration. We have to remember that these two gentlemen are alpha males in a highly competitive industry.
    If this the present and future of the club , then I am barely able to contain my passion and enthusiasm for the club team that I fell in love with so many years ago. It just feels right that wherever I travel in the world, I can see our colours and know that I have an extended family member that can share a smile , or a moment , or more.
    Let this renaissance continue to build, I am invested with every outcome regardless of the results ( but hoping for the best )

  23. Im a United supporter, still… stevie is a ledge and Klopp is the best Manager in the league. Such an awesome guy, your lucky to have him.

  24. And this is why Jurgen Klopp is my Favourite manager. And he shall be a role model for all Football managers.

  25. Best Wishes to Jurgen, Steven and all the players, staff and fans of Liverpool FC from a humble Rangers supporter. C'mon you REDS #LFC!

  26. Dude… then why the fxxx did you leave Liverpool for a crappy team named Rangers in a crappy league??????? Stevie made a mistake equivalent to having a one night stand with a celebrity.

  27. Steven has to use analytical abstraction to sort the away the things that is not important and what things which is important. Life is short you cannot be best in everything you need to abstract a few things and focus your attention on those things and resist the temptation of other shinny objects.

  28. Learning by doing watch the game four time find the truth not just assume you played well find it out and adjust. Its all about trail and error elimination

  29. Gerrad retieres – looks kinda old.
    Gerrad learning to become a manager – looks like a young schoolboy again.

    Good for him.

  30. LFC has some truly fantastic people both in the team and in the management, it's like they're on a different planet.

  31. 2 of the most respected professionals over 2 generations….. Absolute Respect from a Derby fan, We have another, Lampard….!

  32. He's from a village next to my old home village. It's funny to see that even after many different stages in his life and now in England he is using our regional way of saying things. Good man, like him…

  33. Imagine if he wins the League with us (Steven) also Klopp aswell but no one would be talking about “the slip”

  34. All Stevie G had to do was buy Football Manager 2018 to get an understanding of the difficulties of management 😉

  35. Jurgen is a winner! When will an English man come to Germany, master the language and manage a top club such as Bayern Munich? He is a role model for all aspiring managers and player managers!

  36. Loved everything about this interview and I'm not even a Liverpool fan ✌️ also surprised that Klopp speaks very good English!

  37. Klopp and Pep fascinate me – and great to see them in our league – -for me -Jurys out on Stevey G -but he's still learning – – hard t be nice about him – (I"m an Evertonian !)

  38. After I Saw This I New Steven Gerrard Wood Be Manager Of My Boyhood Club Glasgow Rangers, And My Other Boyhood Club Liverpool Steven Gerrard Is My All Time Liverpool Hero,

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